Date: Wed Jul 2 00:07:53 1997 From: bo777@freenet.carleton.ca Subject: OLA Predictions To: dundas@freenet.toronto.on.ca Here are my predictions for the 3 OLA leagues. Major : Niagara Falls is the class of the league. Junior A : I gotta go with Whitby, coached by Jim Bishop, Orangeville seems to be sinking. Junior B East : Orillia, what else needs to be said. Junior B West : It's a toss-up between Spartan & Six Nations.
From: laxontario@mail.geocities.com ("Jefferson Davis") Subject: Re: Information Date: Sun 13 July Hi Glen With the OLA playoffs under way, If you hear of a score, or attend a playoff game; Would you please send the result to me at gdisme@freenet.toronto.on.ca Most happily. Good chance I'll be going to the next 2 Six Nations Arrows games ... tonight and Wednesday. Was at the 14-7 St. Kitts win on Friday night .. but Peter had the Friday night scores. You know from experience how hard it is get OLA info. yowsa .. I'm going to keep my page going at least to the end of this season. I add a personal touch. I let the fans have their say. I'll be visiting your site. However, I need raw info & that's where the official page has the upper hand. But; their page is a no go on the week-end. The OLA hotline is spotty at best. On Fri night Peter Flook started out say results for Fri July 7 .. He seemed to slur his words .. I think he was drunk or at least had enjoyed a few cocktails. I know I had .. :) On the Fri night OLA hotline Peter had at least 2 scores wrong which I have confirmed This is the sad truth of lacrosse in Ontario. I don't exactly know why everything gets so fouled up along the way .. sheer imcompetence I imagine ... but this year statistically has been like all the others. Last time I checked at least, take a look at how Peter (or whoever..) tries to balance the goals for and against at the end of the season. They were out by the second week. Also, some of those home and road records are wrong. I don't mean to be persnickity about these things but stats should be 100% accurate or else there is no point keeping them. Oh well. Playoffs abound. I think Six Nations can take Orangeville in a semi if it comes to that. Against Whitby, I wouldn't think they have much hope. In their favour is that they are very very enthusistic. We shall see. JD
From: Tetraethel@aol.com (unknown) Subject: A Nothing Game Date: Sun, 27 Jul Glen Are you nuts? Have you ever played a game at the end of a season against the team you KNEW you'd see in the finals (or semis in this case). Don't forget the fact that they've already split two with the home team winning all four. Between the pride factor and all the psychological effects of the result, I'd be surprised if the guys playing think that. It may not change the standings but I'd bet a paycheck it'll be some damn good lacrosse. REBUTTALS WELCOME (ha-ha) Joe Fee PS: Do you or did you play up there? If so where? =============================================================== Hi Joe, Thanks for your interest. Point #1 : How much is your paycheck? :) Point #2 : My guess is that your responding to my editors note that the Major game .. Thu July 31 Niagara at Brampton is a nothing game. In answer to your question
Date: Wed Jul 30 21:11:51 1997 From: george@ionline.net (Harry George) Subject: Sweep To: gdisme@freenet.toronto.on.ca Glad to hear Nations came through with the sweep . I was looking forward to seeing them play Whitby, but Peterborough seems to have different ideas about that . They must be getting great goaltending and / or playing great defense to keep the scores so low vs that Whitby offense.
This clever bit was sent to me by an anonymous fan. From: @mail.geocities.com (unknown) Subject: "The Wreck Of The Brampton Excelsiors" Date: Thu, 31 Jul by Dr. Lock ( with apologies to Foghorn Lightfinger ......) (sung to the tune "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald"...) The legend lives on from the BunnyBarn on down Of a lacrosse team too vicious and burly The team, it is said, went from champions to dead Why the hell did they hire Steve Churley? He took a Founders Cup team with Minto Cup dreams And won maybe five games in two seasons In Scarborough they were sad, said "We can't be that bad" But behind the Saints' bench lurked the reason They'd soon had enough of his asinine stuff Starting fourteen-year-olds regularly They gave him the gas, yes they fired his ass And collapsed back down to Junior 'B' Up in Goontown those days things were going okay The Ontario banner was flying They were an ugly bunch of thugs playing like they were on drugs But for the Minto out west they were vying It didn't go well, they got beaten to hell By the New Westminster Salmonbellies As an alternate plan they beat up on some fans Which in Goontown will do just as well-y Next year they got a good start, thought they were missing a part And went looking for someone to coach 'em It's hindsight to say, but I'll bet they'd have said "nay" If they knew how bad Churley would poach 'em See, he'd slithered away up to Goontown one day Where he hoped no one knew of his failures When he said "Here we go, we're already five-and-oh" Came the wreck of the Brampton Excelsiors The team wasn't bad but Lord, they'd been had It was nothing but fighting and folly But what can you say, when game after game They kept dressing that shithead McCauley They went a bit mad when the season went bad They went over the glass in St. Catharines Someone called them a name, they bailed out on a game And a Kitch-Water crowd went home laughing Does anyone know where the love of God goes When Sarnia's clearing your table In what the Stix hotline claims was a penalty-filled game With no other details avail'ble The legend lives on from Orangeville on down Of a lacrosse team too vicious and burly The Excelsiors, 'tis said, went from champions to dead Why the hell did they hire Steve Churley? And time after time, we're left asking the Stix line Why the hell did they hire Steve Churley?
From: bibmstev@computan.on.ca ("William Stevens") Subject: Thanks Date: Sat, 02 Aug Glen- Thanks for your scores ... if it was not for your page, I wouldn't know which team won the July 31 game between Whitby and Peterborough. It seems that the Official OLA page keeps regular business hours.... no wonder lacrosse gets no respect. The Standard newspaper here in St. Catharines gives lacrosse good coverage .. not great, but passable .. however they can't give out scores when they do not get them from the league office .. once St. Catharines was beaten by Peterborough .... no Junior A coverage gets into the paper. Lacrosse has to start getting itself together ... For example the date of the first playoff game between St. Cath. and Pete. was set a day before it was played ... only 50 people showed up to the game... how the heck is promotion possible when dates are so tight, that you can not even advertise? Another thing that bugs me, is the fact so many Junior B players are not playing up to tjeir calibre in Junior A. The OLA has to ensure that Junior A clubs can access the very best players. Perhaps with the arrival of the National Lacrosse League, the players themselves will want to play where their level is.It is my humble opinion, that Lacrosse today is still where it was 20 years ago, a relativelly unkown sport, and like a cult, kept to itself. Bill in St. Catharines
From: truds@MNSi.Net (htrudeau) Subject: Burnaby's Back: Date: Wed, 13 Aug Dear Glen: Well i read the same old stories from eveyone else and haven't seen the one Hank Trudeau sent, Doens't really matter though disher and trudeau and the boy's in black are back,,,,,,, and the games will be won....... So GO BURNABY~~~~~~~~~~~~~~the east should have given these boys what they deserved. and i'm sure Mr. Bishop won't be happy with Trud's coming back to win>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later Friends n Lacrosse Janice Pillon
From: bt829@webtv.net (unknown) Subject: Buffalo Boxla Tourney Date: Sat, 16 Aug [This is a courtesy copy of an article posted to Usenet via Deja News] Disclaimer: I play in the sportsplex indoor lacrosse league, and recieved the following information in the mail from them. I do not work for or represent sportsplex or the tournament, and make no claims or guarentees. I am just passing along information. ********************************************************************* The first annual men's internatoinal indoor lacrosse tournament will be held saturday september 27,1997 at sportsplex, 90 ridge road, north tonawanda new york 14120. contact andy or chris at (716) 694-8877. Entry fee is $250 per team. 1st place gets $400 plus prizes, 2nd place $250 (based on 8 team tournament). Guaranteed 3 games, in a group, round robin style. Top team advances to the single elimination playoffs and into the finals. Air conditioned bar and lounge. Space is limited, call today (716) 694-8877, leave name and address for them to mail you your team packet. nodg
From: truds@MNSi.Net (htrudeau) Subject: Newstories Date: Thu, 21 Aug Just a few lines to entertain the Whitby crowd . Being a long time supporter of the O.L.A Iam looking forward to a real battle on the hands of the Warriors.The west by all means seem to have the upper hand size, and experience and have showen that they have the scoring depth.With Disher in net he has alot to prove to Ont.He is the best Goalie in the League and will be playing in his back yard all his friends will be there and his family to give that support.Furthermore what about the rest of the team. Being here last year and showed Orangeville they can play with the best of them.The key to any playoffs is the strengh of the net.Defence is also another factor.Lakers have great size and skill in the back, so they appear on paper to have the advantage there. The warriors have good shoots on the point. But sure to be pushed around alot. And to add to the Lakers Arsonal is one of the most offensive players in the league Nick Trudeau His stats speak for themself. So if these words hold true the only diaster that can happen is the REFFEREE will become involved and we all know how they can effect the outcome of any game. Well i hope you all enjoyed my thoughts and are amoused by these wise words of wisdom .Iam sure, you who Know me this wont be my last words.Enjoy the games I hope I can make all games Only 600 Kms to travel see you there................ Hank T.
From: rosst@tor.hookup.net (LCP) Subject: great job Date: Thu, 21 Aug Glen: What a great web sight-I only wish I had discovered it sooner. I live just outside of Bolton, ON and lacrosse coverage is non-existent here. A friend in my home town of Orillia called last Thursday to inform me the Hammond Kings were on the verge of another provincial championship. I'm ashamed to admit that it was the first lacrosse game I've attended in three years. I really got the fever again and went to Mimico yesterday to see a pretty decent game between Orillia and Edmonton. I can't wait for tonight's game between Orillia and Mimico. As a longtime player and fan of lacrosse, I can empathize with your frustration in dealing with the OLA for stats. It is easier to obtain cricket scores than lacrosse scores, and it's easy for a longtime player/fan to drift away from the game; this is not a coincidence. More than any other sport, lacrosse sells itself when people attend a game. Contrary to what Mr. Kinsella would have us believe, if you build it people will not come. If you build it, and publicize it people will come, and they will return if they know when and where. When they can't come, they would love to know what they missed. In fairness to the OLA, I didn't know of their web sight until last week, and some of the information I 'm after is contained therein, but it was lacking and slow with the results. I checked this morning and found out last night's Founder's Cup results. That is the way it should be and you are to be commended for running a superior sight, but it's pretty sad when the unofficial OLA sight is much more informative and faster than the official sight. Not to take anything away from you, but that's pretty sad don't you think? I'm truly sorry that I didn't discover this sight and rediscover lacrosse until so late in the season, but I'm going to get to as many games as possible. That Major series (thanks for the game report) sounds like a dandy and I'm not far from Brampton, so I'll take in at least one of those and am going to trek to Whitby to see my alumnus vie for another Minto Cup. I've already visited your sight a number of times in the past few days and I'm sure I will be a regular until the end of the season. Thanks a million, Glen. Sincerely, Ross Tabor
From: dshaule@sympatico.ca (Dan Shaule) Subject: web page and the great showing that Six Nations has made once again this year Date: Mon, 25 Aug I find your web page very helpful and interesting. I am very proud of the Lacrosse heritage in my community. I'm from Six Nations. It was great to see that Six Nations and Six Nations players have gone so far in the post-season. At the same time, I was apprehensive about the playoffs (because more than ever, this is the time when our teams and players have to combat so much blantant racism from other teams, their fans, referees and even the lacrosse association. I guess some teams need that extra weapon (discrimination) to defeat our players. It is sad to know that our youth must be faced with this reality as part of their "lacrosse maturity". But this year especially, we can be proud of how the game has been honoured in our community. Our legacy with lacrosse has shone through on many occasions over the years, (despite the outlawing of our players in the earlier years--they were banned for being "professionals") with a Minto Cup, three Mann Cups, last year's President's Cup, Midget Siver and Juvenile Gold at the Indigenous Games in Victoria this year, not to mention all of the individual merits accumulated by people like Gaylord Powless, Cammy Bomberry and Pete Skye (to name only a few of hundreds). If you haven't already seen it, I recommend that you see the movie, "The Creator's Game". It was a very respectful and creative way of honouring the origin of the sport of lacrosse as well as our community. tlongboat@trentu.ca
From: bibmstev@computan.on.ca ("William Stevens") Subject: Many thanks Date: Sun, 24 Aug Glen- I was getting frantic --- I couldn,t get the score anywhere on the Brampton niagara falls game last night (Sat) and then I thought about your site ... you had it 10 - 9 for the Falls. Thanks It seems the Gamblers and OLA sites are history sites.... your site should be declared the OFFICIAL site, the others could be called the archives. Thanks again Bill from St. Catharines My E-Mail address: bibmstev@computan.on.ca Visit the Ontario-Niagara Gen Web site at: http://www.niagara.com/~mark (Editors Comment) Bill: The Brampton Excelsiors hot line at (905) 455-7849 is, great & has quick news. They get the score up, with details within an hour of the game. Of course if your in St.Catharines .. It's a long distance call ... :(
Date: Sun Aug 31 00:56:01 1997 From: bibmstev@computan.on.ca ("William Stevens") Subject: 12:53 am Sunday -you got the score ! To: gdisme@freenet.toronto.on.ca Thanks once again for the Gamblers vs Brampton series game 6 score and write-up. I don't know how I would find this out before I went to bed wondering who won. GREAT GREAT STUFF !!!! *********************************************************************** My E-Mail address: bibmstev@computan.on.ca *************************************************************************
Sept 1 , 1997 From: bibmstev@computan.on.ca ("William Stevens") Subject: Gamblers win series Date: Mon, 01 Sep The Niagara Falls Gamblers have beaten Bramton Excelsiors 10 - 6 to win the Major Division Championship. Darrus Kilgour was named the games most valuable player. The Gamblers took an early lead and never looked back. ************************************************************************* My E-Mail address: bibmstev@computan.on.ca *************************************************************************
From: jpirbus@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (unknown) Subject: Gamblers game 7 Date: Tue, 02 Sep Hi Glen, Just got back from the Gamblers game;and what a game it was! The Gamblers cheered on by more than 2500 screaming fans won game 7 by a score 10-6 to win the honour of representing Ontario in the MANN CUP. Both teams played exceptionally well tonite,but Niagara Falls seemed to want it more.It was probably the best Lacrosse game the Niagara Region has seen since the 1940's.Congratulations to Coach Terry Sanderson,all the players,and the management of the Gamblers for an astounding, incredible, and entertaining season.Best of luck in B.C. BRING HOME THE MANN CUP,WHERE IT BELONGS! Glen, ask your viewers to e:mail TSN to cover the MANN CUP (Editors Comment: You Just Did.)
From: bbcj@storm.ca (unknown) Subject: Thanks Date: Fri, 05 Sept My compliments to you for a well run page. It has been quite enjoyable to be brought up to date on the Ontario lacrosse scene. Unfortunately, the two local Ottawa papers provide little or no information on this sport especially once the two Jr B teams were eliminated. A work colleague who played on past Gloucester teams ( but no Internet access ) has been very appreciative of these updates, also. Again, thanks for all of your hard effort.
From: truds@MNSi.Net (htrudeau) Subject: Burnaby -Whitby Date: Sun, 07 Sept Hi glen, Another good story but not all true If Maynard was such a good defender for the warriors How come Nick Trudeau had 39 points in the series.And it is sad when people boo at the most valueable player because they know Nick was and should have got the award.I dont know who picks this award but just another feather for Bishop And whitby . I think that Burnaby lost the series because they were a weaker team not only in talent but in heart. And if it was not for Nick on the team we would not have been entertained at all . So on that note Nicks Stats spoke for him when awards would not. Thanks for your web to vent my disgust and anger would like a reply from your readers..
Sept 13 1997 Two Editors Chewing the Fat Hey Glen: What's happening out that way?? I guess the Mann Cup is the only thing going on right now. Things are starting to wind down. Thats good cause I need a break.... I've had loads of positive feed back about your and my web sites. People are really happy with the work you and I are doing. I'm sure glad you kept your site going as we would have been sh*t out of luck on many occasions this season. Do you ever hear from Jeff?? DF Hi Daryl, I think the Gamblers are resigned to a Mann Cup loss being down 3-1 with 3 games still possible. On the Gamblers page there is no official coverage or comments on how the Mann Cup is progressing. The only mention of the series is in Gamblers Gab where the fans voice opinion. On the positive feed-back thing : I too get posts of appreciation. Some of them I put up in the area known as < The fans speak out >. I was hoping the comments would be more inregards to the game and players but it turned into a thanks Glen "love in". I think when I changed my main page colours to white & black script things picked up. Modestly, I did a reasonable job for a guy who started from scratch May 9. Your tip .. put pre at the front & pre at the back got me on my way :) I only learned what I had to since the page is all script. I never learned graphics & I'd loved to have had some sound. Missed out on the crawler too. As for Jeff, he just dropped from site. When the 97 season started & we had 3 pages going, Mine yours & Jeff's; with the OLA's in the works, Jeff packed it in. I had a mention to his page & he asked me, practically begged me to remove the mention which I did. I received a humours bit from an annonoymous source called (The Wreck of Brampton Excelsiors) that I put up. I believe it came from Jeff. I'll be keeping an eye on the new NILL & their new team in Hamilton with the proposed name Ontario Raiders. Well, That's my view from the East. I'm thinking the Mann Cup will all be over on Sunday. Note: Because the cup is played in the west with a late finish time here in the East .. result it is passed the eastern papers press time so no Mann Cup coverage at all here. I think your the only link. :) Now I'm thinking column #8 Glen
4ry86@schlauch.com September 14, 1997 Doug Shields Great season. See you next year. Doug